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some of this in the other debates. governor, you say you want a bigger military. you want a bigger navy. you don't want to cut defense spending. what i want to ask you, we're talking about financial problems in this country. where are you going to get the money? >> well, let's -- let's come back and talk about the military, but all the way -- all the way through. first of all, i'm going through, from the very beginning, we're going to cut about 5 percent of the discretionary budget excluding military. that's number one. all right? >> but can you do this without driving us deeper into debt? >> the good news is, i'll be happy to have you take a look. come on our website, you'll look at how we get to a balanced budget within eight to 10 years. we do it by getting -- by reducing spending in a whole series of programs. by the way, number one i get rid of is "obamacare. " there are a number of things that sound good but, frankly, we just can't afford them. and that one doesn't sound good, and it's not affordable, so i get rid of that one from day one; to the extent humanly possible, we get th
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